Is God Real? Exploring the Ultimate Question of Life - Lee Strobel
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It’s no coincidence that one of the most asked questions on any search engine “Is God real?” When life feels overwhelming, we want to know if there really is a deity who loves us, knows us, and cares about what happens to us. Join investigative journalist and former atheist Lee Strobel on a quest to determine whether we can know with confidence that God is real. Lee Strobel’s landmark book, The Case for Christ , is one of the most respected defenses of Christianity of all time. Now in Is God Real? Lee weaves together material from his previous books with the latest evidence from the most brilliant scientific and philosophical minds to answer the pressing questions on our hearts and minds. In this rational exploration of the proof of God’s existence, Lee Written for skeptics and believers alike, Is God Real? is a life-changing exploration of the question that matters most.
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This post has 29 comments with rating of 5/5
November 11th, 2023
no
November 11th, 2023
And a joyful affirmative, necessary causes being, er, necessary.
November 11th, 2023
No. Next st*pid question?
November 11th, 2023
Folk get so bent up about religion.
It’s just Main Character Syndrome for people too old to cope with Tik Tok.
November 11th, 2023
Oy, you’re trying too hard again, P. A “Tik Tok” fan as well? Such prydefulness always ends with a pratfall, as repeatedly demonstrated.
November 11th, 2023
Or too dumb to cope with Tik Tok.
November 11th, 2023
Given that you’re an avowed “Tik Tok” victim (with MCS), your dumb already runneth over, P!
November 11th, 2023
He’s with the Microgeneration Certification Scheme? Good for him. But since that scheme launched in 2007, it’s not recent enough for me to bother with.
November 11th, 2023
I think you’re developing quite the recency bias, icon. Time to reconsider?
November 11th, 2023
Zeus is very real. Allah isn’t.
November 11th, 2023
One of the reasons Zeus would not qualify as a First Cause, for example, is that he comes into existence significantly after the fact.
November 11th, 2023
That aside, this is *not* the ultimate question of life :D
November 12th, 2023
But, H, it would appear that, for most people, it is; an extimated 93-96% of the global population that express some form of religious belief; ultimate origins, ultimate destiny - that kind of minor stuff. Although, when we are in our adolescent phase, it scarcely seems important at all (I was that soldier).
November 12th, 2023
I’m waiting for the sequel, Is the Loch Ness Monster Real?
It hasn’t made the same amount of money as the God thing, but it’s still selling some that doesn’t exist to the pathologically credulous.
November 12th, 2023
Nessie still doesn’t qualify as a First Cause either.
November 12th, 2023
So, C, 90% of the populus already has the answer for that one - so what’s *their* ultimate question?
For the remainder, and in general, I’ll suppose anything that’s not yay-or-nay (maybe some “why” or “how”?) might be a good place to start.
I also rather think that it is especially in our adolescent phase (besides advanced seniority) when we tend to raise exuberant “ultimate questions”.
November 12th, 2023
Au contraire: mayhaps t’was Nessie who laid the primal egg (you know, Egg > Phanes > Nyx > the funny bunch) ;)
November 12th, 2023
It remains the ultimate question for virtually everyone, because faith is not certainty. The opposite of faith is not doubt, the opposite of faith is certainty. All must live with doubt.
Why & how are baked in for all as well.
“it is esp in adolescent phase when we raise exuberant “ultimate questions”” - Well, something certainly is “exuberantly raising” in the adolescent phase, that’s troo.
And au contraire, part II: Nessie’s posited creaturely existence is within time & space, not without, or antecedent.
November 12th, 2023
If you say God created the universe then who created God? If you say God always existed then why not save a step and say the universe always existed?
I understand the deep need in people to believe that when they die it does not just end. To also answer the hard questions with the simple God wills it.
Yet to call anyone who agrees with the basic concept that God does not exist adolescent or child-like is pretty petty.
If god is out there he puts a huge amount of trust in Free will and the ability to choose. Be that right or wrong. If one wished to follow God’s example one would also put a large amount of trust in free will and not insult anyone who decided to use their free will to choose as they see fit.
Still back to my original question. Who created God? I have yet to have anyone answer that question. All I ever get is either the standard answer of He always existed now shut up this conversation is over or insults. Insults like the ones I have seen above.
Your faith is your own if it brings you happiness then that is a good thing. No need to degrade and insult those that do not believe as you do.
November 12th, 2023
All great points, c. The central point is that what we refer to as God is uncaused first cause, unmoved mover, necessary cause & fundamental ground of being itself. This is what we call God. (Ok, so it’s not the idea of old man on a cloud, with big beard.)
If we look to being which is contingent or caused (like us & all we see), that cannot be a (or “the”) necessary cause, we must look to original causation. And, logically, we cannot have infinite regress. We must arrive at necessary causation.
If we settle on a “creator” being that was itself caused, created or contingent, then we have not arrived at ultimate, necessary causation. That is not the suspect we seek, so we must look to necessary being.
An eternal universe places us again at the infinite regress problem.
As for a deep need to believe in no end - oddly, I’ve always been a bit indifferent abt that (which I probably shouldn’t be). I actually love & embrace the difficult philos questions (love knotty problems!).
We must also acknowledge the deep psychological need that many feel that there not be an ultimate reckoning. A profound need to emotionally reject the idea of necessary causation & ultimate being, which we refer to as God. We all, at some level in our lives, resent moral accountability.
On the adolescent thing, my apologies if it came across like that. That wasn’t my intent, I was being a bit offhand & satirical (please don’t infer dodgy sense of humour as attempts to degrade/insult - I’m never hostile to courteous people). I was using my own adolescence as an illustrative example, that it was my most atheist - even anti-theist - phase. And this was generally true for friends, family & associates (there are reasons for this being fairly true for teens across the board - but that’s another area).
Your point about free will & individual dignity is well made, incisive, & one I entirely agree with, tbh. Our agency is utterly vital to our dignified human personhood, as rational creatures.
November 13th, 2023
Ty for the well-reasoned response. I will have to think on it. Be well and start safe
November 13th, 2023
Bless you, cluckers.
November 13th, 2023
I’ve always found it the height of hubris to imagine the origin of the universe (or the foundation of all being) comports to anything comprehensible by the human mind, a literal prisoner of what our senses allow us to imagine, measure and test. We’re like characters in a computer simulation striving to ascertain its rules while blind to the architecture that underlies it. Books like this are diverting, but so is masterbation. That being said, thanks for the posting.
November 13th, 2023
You’re right, in the measure that all we can do is operate with the rational faculties which are available to us. And within those parameters, it is possible to reason to certain conclusions, such as what we can know or conjecture around necessary causation, infinity & metaphysical being.
The universe is strangely intelligible to us & responds to our probing (I say “strangely” because it is a remarkable condition; there is no material reason that this ought to be the case, when you think of it).
Existence may indeed always remain inscrutable to us, as we’re like an infant attempting to fully grasp the mind of her mother.
November 13th, 2023
“former atheist”.. hmm, that one sealed the deal for me…
November 14th, 2023
I once decided to find a apt comparison of just how small we are in relation to the universe. So I found this. I am not sure if it is correct or not but it goes like this.
The earth is one grain of sand of all the sand on all the beaches in the world. That is the size of our galaxy.
Then it goes on that our galaxy is but one grain of sand of all the sand in the world. That is the amount of galaxy’s in the universe.
It is so huge and vast our minds can’t comprend the size and just how small we are.
About our knowledge of science you can think of it this way.
All the knowledge of universe is the pacfic and we have stepped up to our ankles into it.
So if there is a ultimate being out there we are to him like a bacteria on a grain of sand is to us.
November 14th, 2023
We’ve so much farther to go - provided we make it. We have to keep winning, & so 4th.
November 23rd, 2023
“I see no reason to believe in any sort of God, however vague and however attenuated.“
Bertrand Russell
November 29th, 2023
Appeal to authority, illodiini - inadmissible. You’re on your last “Come on, man!”
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